Date: 2005-05-09 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainbear.livejournal.com
*blpp*sputter*but*arrrrrrrrrrrrrgh*

Date: 2005-05-09 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkham1010.livejournal.com
How could you forget this:http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/05/08/kansas.evolution.ap/index.html

Date: 2005-05-09 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] syringavulgaris.livejournal.com
That one was all over my flist, so I figured it didn't need repeating.

Date: 2005-05-09 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkham1010.livejournal.com
I just want to point out something. ALl this crap going on in Kansas is symbolic, not a real threat. The fundies love to stomp their feet, pull their hair, and shout, but at the end of the day they go home happy and nothing changes.

Its all about getting your voice heard, not about getting anything done.

Date: 2005-05-09 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
So instead it gives preferences over religions (actually sects of religions, there ARE Christian churches that are fine with same sex relationships) that are intolerant. Lovely.

Actually, I don't like the wording of that -- tolerant of homosexuality versus rejecting it. What about accepting, and welcoming? It's as if the only two choices are put up with it or reject it. And that simply isn't the case. By using the word tolerant and reject like that, it's making it look like there simply is nothing valid or positive about homosexual relationships, the best one could hope for it to have such relationships tolerated. And that's bullshit.

Date: 2005-05-09 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] syringavulgaris.livejournal.com
Considering how benighted the rest of the Honorable Judge's remarks are, this surprises you?

Date: 2005-05-09 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweh.livejournal.com
Actually, I prefer "tolerance" as opposed to "accepting" or "welcoming".

I don't accept or welcome religions of any type; I tolerate them as long as they don't get in my face. Why should I welcome it? If I tolerate it then I'm giving them freedom to do as they wish. They don't need my blessing. In the same way, my sexual preferences are my choice; I want people to tolerate my right to choose as I see fit.

South Park actually had a good episode on this; Mr Garrison was trying to get fired for being gay:
http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-344/epid-212343/

Tolerance of differences should be the goal of a civilised society.

Date: 2005-05-09 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
Paired with rejection, though, the judge made it sound like religions had only two takes - tolerance or rejection, that no faith in its right mind would actually accept or welcome homosexuals.

Maybe I am reading too much into it.

Date: 2005-05-09 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schlatko.livejournal.com
It's ALWAYS Alabama!

Date: 2005-05-09 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimar.livejournal.com
From the article about Gerald Allen:

"It's not healthy for America, it doesn't fit what we stand for," says Allen. "And they will do whatever it takes to reach their goal."


*blarg?* A book ban is healthy for America and fits what America stands for?!? I never realized America stood for intolerance and bigotry. I guess the idea that America stands for tolerance and freedom is outmoded.

Date: 2005-05-10 07:44 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xlerb.livejournal.com
I'm tempted to say “Saw off the South!” here, but nobody who doesn't read soc.motss would get the reference.

Also, I'd like to point out that certain other laws give preference to religions that don't call for the occasional blood sacrifice of a Republican over those that do, and I don't think that's fair.

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