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When a pissing match between two network providers can cause the functional equivalent of the Grand Canyon between vast portions of TEH INTARWEB, I give a lot less credence to the vaunted capability of routing around damage.

Now, it's not all the fault of the base protocols &c. Mr. Networks noted that one of the spoiled brats providers in question was advertising routes for sites that they then refused to actually route to, for instance. And though we had a backup connection (what? preparedness? Say it ain't so!), it is...regrettable...that Con Ed had managed to fuck its routing somewhere along the line and nobody was aware of this until we tried to use it. Thankfully, this is all better now, and I can reach Penny Arcade again. Whee.

Nevertheless, I heartily wish disgusting, degenerative venereal diseases on the people responsible at Cogent & Level 3. Burn like sulphuric acid, you goat-felching fucktards.

Date: 2005-10-07 12:50 am (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (Default)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Heh. Cogent has been terrible since i noticed their existence, and Level 3, well, we used to be their customer, let's just put it that way. This drama couldn't've happened to two nicer companies.

Date: 2005-10-07 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] syringavulgaris.livejournal.com
I would be in merry agreement with you if Level 3 wasn't our primary upstream.

Date: 2005-10-07 04:35 am (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (Default)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Well, i'm sure you're shopping around now!

I've been waiting for a blowup like this to happen with the backbone providers. I'm surprised it's taken this long.

Date: 2005-10-07 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] syringavulgaris.livejournal.com
I'd heard that it had--that Level 3 depeered, um, XO I think a bit back, don't know why; and that Cogent had been variously kicked in the ass by some of their other peers for the same professed reason of lack of traffic equality.

I READ IT ON THE INTERNET, IT MUST BE TRUE

Date: 2005-10-07 05:04 am (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (Default)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
HOW COULD U READ IT ON THE INTARWEB IF U GOT DEPEARED LOL

Date: 2005-10-07 06:52 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xlerb.livejournal.com
Routing around damage? Sure. Routing around $$$$$? Not so much.

(That's the quick summary of what I've learned about the Modern Internet these past two days.)

Date: 2005-10-08 01:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] heliumbreath.livejournal.com
It turns out that a lot of the routing-around-damage is manual; back in the day, our BGP config had a lot of entries to deprecate routes that involved certain ASN pairings; $TELCO1 and $TELCO2 had a horribly-saturated peering, $BACKBONE_WITH_DELUSIONS_OF_GODHOOD1 and $BACKBONE_WITH_DELUSIONS_OF_GODHOOD2 were going to drop any packets that attempted to actually pass between them, $TELCO3 depeered us at $IX so we forcerouted anything for them via $CHEAPO_BANDWIDTH for a good look at the Windy City before making it back across the street. Of course, you have to hope that the folks at the other end of your intended connection were equally on the ball and sent packets to you along a firsthop that had a good chance of getting back to you too.

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