Disappointed in this change

Date: 2009-03-27 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkham1010.livejournal.com
On that horrible day in september 2001, many people died for our freedoms, and I think its unfortunate we cannot honor their sacrifice with a little appreciation and remembrance. After all, President Bush wisely said "The call of liberty cannot fall."

Re: Disappointed in this change

Date: 2009-03-27 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] syringavulgaris.livejournal.com
I'm not wanting to start a Political Flamewar, but--They didn't die for our freedoms. Indeed, what those madmen were doing had nothing to do with our freedoms, but what they perceived their own to be or not be. Those deaths were terrible, wasteful, wrong, and many other adjectives, and should be remembered and commemorated (and they are being so!), but not by slapping Freedom Liberty Eagle Stars Patriot Stripes Yay Yay on every piece of non-moving real estate in a fifteen mile radius. That's not a commemoration to me, that's jingoism, which is only itself a few steps removed from fanaticism.

Re: Disappointed in this change

Date: 2009-03-27 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elibalin.livejournal.com
You're making the firemen cry again! I hope you're happy!

Re: Disappointed in this change

Date: 2009-03-27 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkham1010.livejournal.com
Firemen's tears are sweet and soothing for a parched throat.

Re: Disappointed in this change

Date: 2009-03-27 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkham1010.livejournal.com
C'mon, didnt you think it was a troll when i used the words 'wise' and 'President Bush' in the same sentence?

(what is IHL?)

Re: Disappointed in this change

Date: 2009-03-27 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] briony530.livejournal.com
That made me think it was fiction. ;)

Re: Disappointed in this change

Date: 2009-03-27 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dvandom.livejournal.com
IHL = I Have Lost

Re: Disappointed in this change

Date: 2009-03-27 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] syringavulgaris.livejournal.com
I DO NOT HAVE MY SMART HAT ON THIS MONTH

Re: Disappointed in this change

Date: 2009-03-27 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] briony530.livejournal.com
Tor, it doesn't make your point any well stated. There are plenty of folks out there who would make the comment you were replying to with utter seriousness.

Re: Disappointed in this change

Date: 2009-03-27 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dagbrown.livejournal.com
Oh, well said.

Re: Disappointed in this change

Date: 2009-03-27 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] briony530.livejournal.com
THANK YOU TORI AND AMEN! The victims on 9/11 were ordinary people going about their own business who were viciously killed by a bunch of religious extremists. Using their deaths to pay lip service to some gung-ho patriotic ideal is just subverting the tragedy for nationalistic ends.

IMHO the FIRST thing to go should not be the "Freedom Tower" name (tho' I'm happy to wave bye bye to it), but the bloody God-awful "Patriots' Day" label slapped on September 11 by George the Lesser. The victims were victims, not patriots, and the animals who killed them were serving their own twisted and warped ideas of patriotism. And what happens when those of us who remember the sheer horror of that day are no longer around? Will there end up being Patriots' Day furniture sales? It should not be prettied up with a positive name.

Re: Disappointed in this change

Date: 2009-03-27 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dvandom.livejournal.com
There's honoring, and then there's wallowing. And conspicuous displays of excessive patriotism made in order to score political points honor no one.

Re: Disappointed in this change

Date: 2009-03-27 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] briony530.livejournal.com
And let's not forget the recent presidential campaign...apparently it's okay to drag out 9/11 images to provoke violent emotions, but it's also okay to brand NYC and environs as "not real America" and dismiss the residents thereof as nothing but welfare collectors and elitist scum.

Re: Disappointed in this change

Date: 2009-03-27 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancaurelia.livejournal.com
This post has made my head roll in so many different directions at once, that all I can say is... "George the Lesser..." Heh Heh.

Re: Disappointed in this change

Date: 2009-03-27 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] briony530.livejournal.com
I always respected George H.W. Bush. Even when our politics diverged I could respect him. Good thing, I guess, since he sent my hubby to a war. He is a fine man. How he got that driveling idiot for a son is anyone's guess.

Date: 2009-03-27 09:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Barbara loves the bourbon, that's how.

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